Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:56 am
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:27 am
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:30 am
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:42 am
paulh_85 wrote:you cant catch starvation by standing next to someone though...
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:50 am
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:51 am
skidemin wrote:paulh_85 wrote:you cant catch starvation by standing next to someone though...
no but you can starve as a direct effect of people unable to donate to charities because they no longer have work...
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:06 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:paulh_85 wrote:you cant catch starvation by standing next to someone though...
no but you can starve as a direct effect of people unable to donate to charities because they no longer have work...
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:06 pm
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Approximately 9 million people die of hunger every year ... the world carry’s on as normal ...
666,000 die of Covid and the world shuts down, people lose their jobs, companies go to the wall, and cancer treatments are delayed !!!
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:10 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:11 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Thats not strictly true, but don’t let that get in the way of anything..
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:14 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:25 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:29 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
and its not despite...its because...95% of deaths occur during lockdown....keep up you can be outside in fresh air drinking with mates but not indoors its on surfaces its more dangerous....
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:29 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
Source?
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:33 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
i have a cold at the moment but if i have a heart attack that kills me i doubt the doctor will have instructions to put cold on my death certificate...
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:36 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
and its not despite...its because...95% of deaths occur during lockdown....keep up you can be outside in fresh air drinking with mates but not indoors its on surfaces its more dangerous....
So if we hadn’t locked down less than 40,000 people would’ve died globally? Lockdown doesn’t make the virus disappear it was to slow the spread and stop health services getting overwhelmed.
As for drinking in parks but not in your home that’s the decisions of the current crop of idiots that occupy parliament
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:39 pm
skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
Source?
nhs england..iss italy..
ive put the links up loads of times..
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:40 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
i have a cold at the moment but if i have a heart attack that kills me i doubt the doctor will have instructions to put cold on my death certificate...
And officially in the period that 40k people died with covid the actual deaths over that 3 month period was 66k higher than it should’ve been compared to previous years. So something new killed an extra 26k people who hadn’t been tested for covid.
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:44 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
officially..thats a good word.. 15% of that figure died OF Covid..85 % died with but not of Covid..
Source?
nhs england..iss italy..
ive put the links up loads of times..
Once more won't hurt then
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:53 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:660,000 in half a year despite the world being shut down. With how it’s going in USA, Brazil and India I think 2 million deaths by December isn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
So potentially 2 million deaths (that are officially counted) despite the world being shut down.
and its not despite...its because...95% of deaths occur during lockdown....keep up you can be outside in fresh air drinking with mates but not indoors its on surfaces its more dangerous....
So if we hadn’t locked down less than 40,000 people would’ve died globally? Lockdown doesn’t make the virus disappear it was to slow the spread and stop health services getting overwhelmed.
As for drinking in parks but not in your home that’s the decisions of the current crop of idiots that occupy parliament
think what you want, it seems many are happy being scared to death.. but the numbers are all there and have been from the start.... 1.4 million deaths by road traffic accident a year world wide...lets close the roads and ban vehicles eh..
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:37 pm
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:38 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:22 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:12 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Not sure where you’ve pull those stats from mate, some quick research shows Covid has higher death rates than most of your examples bar Cancer. The annual death rates are as follows:
Flu - 16,000
Suicide - 6,500
Childbirth - 8,580
Cancer - 145,000
Covid (5months) - 45,000
Bearing in mind you can’t catch suicide, cancer or death during childbirth from shaking hands with someone.
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:27 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Not sure where you’ve pull those stats from mate, some quick research shows Covid has higher death rates than most of your examples bar Cancer. The annual death rates are as follows:
Flu - 16,000
Suicide - 6,500
Childbirth - 8,580
Cancer - 145,000
Covid (5months) - 45,000
Bearing in mind you can’t catch suicide, cancer or death during childbirth from shaking hands with someone.
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:10 am
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:45 am
NPCF3 wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Not sure where you’ve pull those stats from mate, some quick research shows Covid has higher death rates than most of your examples bar Cancer. The annual death rates are as follows:
Flu - 16,000
Suicide - 6,500
Childbirth - 8,580
Cancer - 145,000
Covid (5months) - 45,000
Bearing in mind you can’t catch suicide, cancer or death during childbirth from shaking hands with someone.
Do you trust your covid statistics? Bare in mind CDC & WHO have been beyond pathetic and completely contradictory from the very beginning. This supposedly from heavily financed institutions with supposed top scientists and people apparently with our best interests at heart $$$$$
An example of how ridiculous and DANGEROUS the CDC & WHO are:
They have recommended "Glory Holes for safe sex" during the pandemic - https://globalnews.ca/news/7204384/coro ... holes-sex/
Carol Baker, Chair of the CDC suggests "let's get rid of all the whites" - https://youtu.be/RnCuJZM4_xc?t=28
The WHO recommends on (p. 38, Standards for Sexuality Education in Europe) "Kids aged 4 and under should be taught about 'early childhood masturbation'"
https://www.bzga-whocc.de/fileadmin/use ... nglish.pdf
Many of the COVID cases have been admitted as double-counts in the US and the UK. Deaths in the US are reported to have been 25% over-inflated... If you die WITH covid, you die OF covid - no ifs, no buts, no maybes... hmmmmmmm...
(UK) - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... officials/
(US) - https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician ... guidelines
(US) - https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlo ... s-n2568925
Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:17 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:NPCF3 wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Annis: Cancer, Heart disease, suicides, normal Flu, death during child berth, all have far more deaths than Covid. And even that figure you have given of Covid deaths has been bought into question as being grossly over estimated.
So with a death rate of 0.0025% to those that catch this can that really justify the collapse of of economy’s all over the world ?
And the deaths of many who can’t access there own doctors and I bet you the death rate because of this is higher than Covid.
Thing is the Governments around the world have done a very good job of scaring the shit out of the vast majority of people.
Not sure where you’ve pull those stats from mate, some quick research shows Covid has higher death rates than most of your examples bar Cancer. The annual death rates are as follows:
Flu - 16,000
Suicide - 6,500
Childbirth - 8,580
Cancer - 145,000
Covid (5months) - 45,000
Bearing in mind you can’t catch suicide, cancer or death during childbirth from shaking hands with someone.
Do you trust your covid statistics? Bare in mind CDC & WHO have been beyond pathetic and completely contradictory from the very beginning. This supposedly from heavily financed institutions with supposed top scientists and people apparently with our best interests at heart $$$$$
An example of how ridiculous and DANGEROUS the CDC & WHO are:
They have recommended "Glory Holes for safe sex" during the pandemic - https://globalnews.ca/news/7204384/coro ... holes-sex/
Carol Baker, Chair of the CDC suggests "let's get rid of all the whites" - https://youtu.be/RnCuJZM4_xc?t=28
The WHO recommends on (p. 38, Standards for Sexuality Education in Europe) "Kids aged 4 and under should be taught about 'early childhood masturbation'"
https://www.bzga-whocc.de/fileadmin/use ... nglish.pdf
Many of the COVID cases have been admitted as double-counts in the US and the UK. Deaths in the US are reported to have been 25% over-inflated... If you die WITH covid, you die OF covid - no ifs, no buts, no maybes... hmmmmmmm...
(UK) - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... officials/
(US) - https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician ... guidelines
(US) - https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlo ... s-n2568925
His figures were UK only though, so you'd have to not trust the NHS/ our government.
I don't think a US federal agency is telling us to bump up our figures.