Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:10 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:27 pm
Barclay1 wrote:With the player sale ongoing, Bennett maybe next, I hope the club hierarchy don't come out and say we are 'looking at playoffs at least'.
Its been a dreadful time financially for every club, and yet there are still clubs spending sums that allow them to be competitive.
We've had 1 x permanent and 2 x loans, neither of whom are setting the world alight.
What is more disappointing is the silence of the board. The energy and enthusiasm of the current board is rubbing off on the Cardiff faithful. The standard of player we have, or are looking at now is worse than Slade era and on par with Trollope.
A message to the current regime. Sell the club to someone with a vision of success.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:29 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:36 pm
Barclay1 wrote:Current owners have given up on success of any kind, therefore a sale is a must.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:40 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:42 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:42 pm
Barclay1 wrote:Current owners have given up on success of any kind, therefore a sale is a must.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:47 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:58 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:06 pm
kimble wrote:He is right in some respects Alan
We are hearing nothing off Tan , Choo and Dalman.....Surely they must know the fans want to know whats going on ...everyone seems to be linked either Morrison , Bennett, Ralls , Bamba . Hoilett Has the Board put out that everyone is available at cut price. Are they selling all the big earners off and bringing in cheaper options
If so Tell us.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:13 pm
Barclay1 wrote:It is just my opinion Sven, but I don't hear, see or feel anything to the contrary.
Someone tell me whether Sheff Wed, Forest, Derby have bigger debt than us, are they selling everything they can, have they received a parachute payment, are they 'going for it?
I'll qualify again this is my opinion, but The current regime have lost interest, in the club, the fans, and in pushing for promotion.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:17 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:32 pm
Barclay1 wrote:We have had more income with parachute payments than the majority of the division.
Fans being treated like Mushrooms.
I don't like it and see a season of real struggle, but then again, what do the board expect. Tell us what the expectation of this club are for this season, and I can bet my bottom dollar it'll be nothing like 90% of clubs in this division.
Fans need hope and something to cheer. Our board has no intention of providing us with either.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:42 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:51 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:56 pm
boyo1927 wrote:I am not sure why I still get shocked of peoples opinions but there seems like people don't live in the real world. Tan has been putting in 1m per month running g costs. There is a global pandemic and like any business football is far from immune. If we need to sell bennett, morrison or any player then the club is always there.
We have had a taste of the premiership and to be honest it ain't all that. For myself the only benefit I see if financially. Other than that the championship is a tremendous league to be part of....only.my opinion but some people need to accept the club has lost millions so rightly we need to cut our cloth accordingly.
Younger players given a chance = yes please
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:18 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:boyo1927 wrote:I am not sure why I still get shocked of peoples opinions but there seems like people don't live in the real world. Tan has been putting in 1m per month running g costs. There is a global pandemic and like any business football is far from immune. If we need to sell bennett, morrison or any player then the club is always there.
We have had a taste of the premiership and to be honest it ain't all that. For myself the only benefit I see if financially. Other than that the championship is a tremendous league to be part of....only.my opinion but some people need to accept the club has lost millions so rightly we need to cut our cloth accordingly.
Younger players given a chance = yes please
Great post mate. Agree with pretty much all of that.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:31 pm
Man of Harlech wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:boyo1927 wrote:I am not sure why I still get shocked of peoples opinions but there seems like people don't live in the real world. Tan has been putting in 1m per month running g costs. There is a global pandemic and like any business football is far from immune. If we need to sell bennett, morrison or any player then the club is always there.
We have had a taste of the premiership and to be honest it ain't all that. For myself the only benefit I see if financially. Other than that the championship is a tremendous league to be part of....only.my opinion but some people need to accept the club has lost millions so rightly we need to cut our cloth accordingly.
Younger players given a chance = yes please
Great post mate. Agree with pretty much all of that.
Me too
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:16 pm
Barclay1 wrote:We have had more income with parachute payments than the majority of the division.
Fans being treated like Mushrooms.
I don't like it and see a season of real struggle, but then again, what do the board expect. Tell us what the expectation of this club are for this season, and I can bet my bottom dollar it'll be nothing like 90% of clubs in this division.
Fans need hope and something to cheer. Our board has no intention of providing us with either.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:37 pm
Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:58 am
Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:58 am
llan bluebird wrote:Its funny how we all see it. I see it as a reboot. It may work or go tits up.
I don't rate Harris, but i think he is doing a half decent job of culling the dead wood and hopefully getting starters in and not have one of the most expensive and star studded benches in the league.
Welsh international starter
Arsenal lad had a shaky first game but built on it and may well be premier league class
The Liverpool lad isn't a right winger but may well be a championship 10 or a left winger
If we get Cauley Woodrow I would be very impressed.
Flint, Murphy, Glatzel, Bennett & Ralls are the most slagged off players on this forum so losing 2 would surely be a celebration for some.
Hopefully another starting winger would be good, but we'd need another full back as cover
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:30 am
ealing_ayatollah wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Its funny how we all see it. I see it as a reboot. It may work or go tits up.
I don't rate Harris, but i think he is doing a half decent job of culling the dead wood and hopefully getting starters in and not have one of the most expensive and star studded benches in the league.
Welsh international starter
Arsenal lad had a shaky first game but built on it and may well be premier league class
The Liverpool lad isn't a right winger but may well be a championship 10 or a left winger
If we get Cauley Woodrow I would be very impressed.
Flint, Murphy, Glatzel, Bennett & Ralls are the most slagged off players on this forum so losing 2 would surely be a celebration for some.
Hopefully another starting winger would be good, but we'd need another full back as cover
Great Post. Fully agree things are not as bleak as some might say
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:36 am
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:42 am
Escott1927 wrote:We released a player who made 60odd appearances and scored 12 goals over 3 seasons. We sold our 2nd choice keeper who would have left for free next season. We sold a player who after 3 season nobody knows what position he actually plays, who was replaced by a natural centre forward. Hardly asset striping.
People need to be more realistic. It is not sustainable in the championship to have fringe players sat on thd bench earning 20k a week. We missed out on promotion last season so the club are off-loading players ready for when the parachute payments stop next season. Smithies, etheridge, Bennet, cunningham, Morrison, hoilet, Murphy, Patterson would have all been on high wages after promotion. Add to that warnock spent close to 20mill on players last season as well.
The parachute payments are there to help cover the extra costs picked up after promotion. Its not free cash thats just sitting there ready to be spent on new players. I'm not a big Tan fan but people seem to slate him yet expect him to invest millions on top of what he's already putting into the club.
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:50 am
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:47 am
Escott1927 wrote:We released a player who made 60odd appearances and scored 12 goals over 3 seasons. We sold our 2nd choice keeper who would have left for free next season. We sold a player who after 3 season nobody knows what position he actually plays, who was replaced by a natural centre forward. Hardly asset striping.
People need to be more realistic. It is not sustainable in the championship to have fringe players sat on thd bench earning 20k a week. We missed out on promotion last season so the club are off-loading players ready for when the parachute payments stop next season. Smithies, etheridge, Bennet, cunningham, Morrison, hoilet, Murphy, Patterson would have all been on high wages after promotion. Add to that warnock spent close to 20mill on players last season as well.
The parachute payments are there to help cover the extra costs picked up after promotion. Its not free cash thats just sitting there ready to be spent on new players. I'm not a big Tan fan but people seem to slate him yet expect him to invest millions on top of what he's already putting into the club.
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:43 pm
Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:47 pm
CarlDale wrote:Tan is the best owner we have had in my lifetime (44 years).
Yes he's a bit more cautious the last few years, but we have been promoted twice, FA cup final and League cup final.
I love it when our fans cry out for new owners, hopefully we get the chicken farmers from Blackburn!!! Jesus get a grip
Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:35 pm
Forever Blue wrote:CarlDale wrote:Tan is the best owner we have had in my lifetime (44 years).
Yes he's a bit more cautious the last few years, but we have been promoted twice, FA cup final and League cup final.
I love it when our fans cry out for new owners, hopefully we get the chicken farmers from Blackburn!!! Jesus get a grip
Our identity must of meant nothing to you or the £200mill debt he created.