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" Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:11 pm

Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Re: Fickleness

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:16 pm

Every single club in the world has them

Win and everything’s fine lose/draw or play bad it’s the end of the world just how football fans are and always will be

Re: Fickleness

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:36 pm

maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.

Re: Fickleness

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:42 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.


Lots of 6/10 tonight.

On the match thread all over Murphy first half. These are the fans who would be shouting at him from the stands eroding his confidence. Which is why I’m glad fans aren’t there.

Re: Fickleness

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:51 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.



none of the front 3 had much of the ball. 4 if you include ojo.. in murphys case what little he had ball he had was taken off him... but thats flare players for you... if the fella marking you has your number

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:43 am

maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.


Your the biggest you idiot

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:20 am

maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:48 am

maccydee wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.


Lots of 6/10 tonight.

On the match thread all over Murphy first half. These are the fans who would be shouting at him from the stands eroding his confidence. Which is why I’m glad fans aren’t there.

Spot on Neil

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:52 am

Unbelievable Neil, I have not seen a single fan so far turn on Big Mick????

I for one will be fully behind him even when we get some blips along the way :thumbright: :bluebird:

As long as he continues to be honest and straight talking as he has always been known to be in his past, for me that goes a long way and he gets 100% from our players :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Who has turned on Murphy since Big Mick took over??

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:58 am

Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:01 am

You have to be big enough to take the flak along with lots of praise.i love mick to bits .but last night I thought he got his set up wrong .bacuna should never have been dropped after getting mom the previous match. Also subbing Wilson for pack when we needed to win that game really . But unbeaten start is beyond our wildest dreams

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:01 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM



Nor me Paul, fans are allowed to express their feelings after a game and how they feel, does not make them fickle? because they feel a player had a bad game. :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM



Nor me Paul, fans are allowed to express their feelings after a game and how they feel, does not make them fickle? because they feel a player had a bad game. :thumbright: :bluebird:


My point exactly.
If someone has a bad game what’s wrong for fans to call it?

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:12 am

maccydee wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.


Lots of 6/10 tonight.

On the match thread all over Murphy first half. These are the fans who would be shouting at him from the stands eroding his confidence. Which is why I’m glad fans aren’t there.


So you'd rather have empty stadiums so that millionaire footballers don't suffer any crisis in confidence :lol:

Quite a strange wish, I'm sure you didn't mean that. :ayatollah:

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:23 am

ThomasC wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

I agree re fickle fans.
I wouldn’t say I turned on Murphy though; I just doubted he had the drive to succeed with us, albeit under Harris.
I’m pleased the lad proved me wrong. He wasn’t great tonight but neither were most of the team - as I said in a previous post, lots of 6 out of 10s when we’ve been having most players scoring 7-8 out of 10 in recent matches.
We battled for what could be an important point tonight when we were nowhere near firing on all cylinders.
Unfortunately that’s not good enough for some who seem to be waiting eagerly for a loss.


Lots of 6/10 tonight.

On the match thread all over Murphy first half. These are the fans who would be shouting at him from the stands eroding his confidence. Which is why I’m glad fans aren’t there.


So you'd rather have empty stadiums so that millionaire footballers don't suffer any crisis in confidence :lol:

Quite a strange wish, I'm sure you didn't mean that. :ayatollah:


Fans have been shouting at footballers for well over 100 years but this snowflake is happy they can’t anymore in case Murphy goes off in a sulk again.

I wonder what all those old working class fans crammed into the grounds all over the country with their caps on would have thought of this modern day ‘fan’?

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:29 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM



Nor me Paul, fans are allowed to express their feelings after a game and how they feel, does not make them fickle? because they feel a player had a bad game. :thumbright: :bluebird:


My point exactly.
If someone has a bad game what’s wrong for fans to call it?



Apparently,fans are not allowed as that means they are fickle according to Neil :lol: :lol:

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:34 am

We were poor last night, yet got a good away point, so am i fickle now?

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:45 am

It’s all about opinions and if one person doesn’t agree or like what another one says then that’s fine by me.

For example Joe Ralls last night had an ineffective game. Maybe that was due to him being a bit rusty or that he was swamped by Huddersfield having an extra man in midfield or because he is just an average footballer who lacks pace, creativity and passing ability.

Those are my opinions. Others may disagree. That’s fine. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong in these types of debate; adding 2 & 2 to make 4 is right but to make 5 is wrong. Opinions are not scientific and never will be.

Football fans are not unlike people who comment on other sports, politics, economics, the environment, wokeness etc

The line however that cannot be crossed is to be offensive, racist or cruel.

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:07 am

Then you have to define ‘offensive’.. and end up nowhere fast

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:21 am

Forever Blue wrote:Unbelievable Neil, I have not seen a single fan so far turn on Big Mick????

I for one will be fully behind him even when we get some blips along the way :thumbright: :bluebird:

As long as he continues to be honest and straight talking as he has always been known to be in his past, for me that goes a long way and he gets 100% from our players :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Who has turned on Murphy since Big Mick took over??


Match thread Annis. Lots of criticism.

No one has turned on Mick. I’m saying won’t take long.

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM


I’m not at all on a wind up.

30 mins into the game there was already criticism for Murphy.

Of course people can call out bad performances. But it was after 30 minutes.

Look at the match thread.

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:25 am

Ninian27 wrote:We were poor last night, yet got a good away point, so am i fickle now?


Not at all.

After 30 mins there were people on Murphy’s back in the match thread.

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 am

Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM



Nor me Paul, fans are allowed to express their feelings after a game and how they feel, does not make them fickle? because they feel a player had a bad game. :thumbright: :bluebird:


My point exactly.
If someone has a bad game what’s wrong for fans to call it?



Apparently,fans are not allowed as that means they are fickle according to Neil :lol: :lol:


Piss off there’s nothing wrong with that.

It was the fact that after 30 minutes they were on Murphy’s back.

I’m just making a prediction about what the future holds is all.

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM

Paul, I don't know Neil personally (Annis does) but I like to think I have a good rapport with him and whilst he often makes many valid points, often tongue-in-cheek, he does seem (and I know he will read this) to have a faulty 'Emergency Stop' button that occasionally allows him to go into 'tilt'

This is not one such occasion, we know we have 'fickle' supporters, but it was clearly a comment/opportunity made to 'stir the pot' a certain 'pot' even just a little and his response to Annis was (excuse the pun) piss poor, too... :roll:

Wait for it though, I'll be the 'bad boy' again for saying it :(

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:31 am

Some of what I mean here.
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Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 am

4 games in 10 days , 3 away . The travelling involved etc. 8 points in total . Cant fault it TBH , some players will be tired and not perform.
11 games unbeaten , 25 points , which is above and beyond promotion form .
Such a pity MM and TC were not here earlier .
The good news is , they are here now and ready to put things in place for next season ! This season after the start we had , whatever happens its a bonus . To where we could have been .

Re: Fickleness

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 am

Sven wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:Tonight’s result proves to me that if we follow this with another couple of bad results and we lose the next three there are certain fans who will be on Mick’s back.

Not many but they are rotten apples and spread more and more.

We have some fickle fans.

They will turn on Mick.

They have already turned on Murphy.

Horrible fans.

Nice of you to give them the platform to start, Neil... ;) :roll:


He’s just on a wind up again mate.

A few comments about how poor the team played and Murphy in particular.
Was just some posters speaking the truth and I see nothing wrong with that.

WUM

Paul, I don't know Neil personally (Annis does) but I like to think I have a good rapport with him and whilst he often makes many valid points, often tongue-in-cheek, he does seem (and I know he will read this) to have a faulty 'Emergency Stop' button that occasionally allows him to go into 'tilt'

This is not one such occasion, we know we have 'fickle' supporters, but it was clearly a comment/opportunity made to 'stir the pot' a certain 'pot' even just a little :(


We do have a good rapport.

My post is valid.

Of course people can say a player hasn’t had a good game. That’s what football fans do. However there were posts saying Murphy doesn’t look interested AFTER 30 MINUTES. That’s the type of shite that I’m on about that shows fans as fickle. I’m not afraid of calling it out.

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 am

nojac wrote:4 games in 10 days , 3 away . The travelling involved etc. 8 points in total . Cant fault it TBH , some players will be tired and not perform.
11 games unbeaten , 25 points , which is above and beyond promotion form .
Such a pity MM and TC were not here earlier .
The good news is , they are here now and ready to put things in place for next season ! This season after the start we had , whatever happens its a bonus . To where we could have been .



Spot on :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 am

nojac wrote:4 games in 10 days , 3 away . The travelling involved etc. 8 points in total . Cant fault it TBH , some players will be tired and not perform.
11 games unbeaten , 25 points , which is above and beyond promotion form .
Such a pity MM and TC were not here earlier .
The good news is , they are here now and ready to put things in place for next season ! This season after the start we had , whatever happens its a bonus . To where we could have been .


Excellent points.

Re: " Fickleness / We have some Fickle fans "

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 am

nojac wrote:4 games in 10 days , 3 away . The travelling involved etc. 8 points in total . Cant fault it TBH , some players will be tired and not perform.
11 games unbeaten , 25 points , which is above and beyond promotion form .
Such a pity MM and TC were not here earlier .
The good news is , they are here now and ready to put things in place for next season ! This season after the start we had , whatever happens its a bonus . To where we could have been .


Not sure how far we can use the tiredness thing as an excuse yes last night was our fourth game in ten days but wasn't it the same for Huddersfield plus they had a far worse injury crisis. Not sure either if the travelling thing is that relevant. We went to Middlesborough by plane (private jet?) the day before the game so there was no travelling on the day of the game.

Not complaining eight points from four games is good. We are probably going to need to average two points a game between now and the end of the season to have a chance of the playoffs.

Don't think our fans are paticularly fickle. Have not seen any turning on McCarthy. If players have a poor game people will point it out as they will if players have a good game.