nicky evans wrote:Grown men fighting over football is embarrassing. Glad all that rubbish is no longer in football as much
103 Barmy Army wrote:nicky evans wrote:Grown men fighting over football is embarrassing. Glad all that rubbish is no longer in football as much
I’ve never understood the mentality either in all honesty and much preferred martial arts as a way of letting off some aggression, in a more controlled and fair environment.
A couple of seasons ago, we bumped into some Nottingham Forrest fans in the Canton area who sat there quietly, until I asked them where they were from. One of the whispered “Nottingham,” to which I replied “you’re all so quiet, I thought Cardiff Splott bowls team were holding an AGM.”
They joined me and my mates and a few pints later we were having Cardiff V Forest dance offs at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon. I’d like to think they went home having had a good time, with the impression that Wales is an hospitable place. That’s my idea of an enjoyable, drunken weekend and I’m glad that the vast majority of football hooliganism has been confined to the history books.
Ccfc-Shane wrote:Did Chelsea run Cardiff that day? As annis stated Chelsea brought around 3.000 hooligans and Cardiff’s gates wasn’t very high them days surly? Way before my time watching Cardiff (I wasn’t even in my old mans sack then) haha.
And how many times did Cardiff actually taken over at the Ninian? Surly it was a rare occasion? Heard a story of Pompey turning up in all wedding gear in limos and stuff (may be wrong)
Ccfc-Shane wrote:Did Chelsea run Cardiff that day? As annis stated Chelsea brought around 3.000 hooligans and Cardiff’s gates wasn’t very high them days surly? Way before my time watching Cardiff (I wasn’t even in my old mans sack then) haha.
And how many times did Cardiff actually taken over at the Ninian? Surly it was a rare occasion? Heard a story of Pompey turning up in all wedding gear in limos and stuff (may be wrong)
Whistler wrote:Whilst I agree it is part of social history, its something to acknowledge as an incident, its certainly not something to celebrate. I dont think its anything to be proud about as a City fan.
Bluesince72 wrote:I was in a group of Cardiff that day that had come off the station at the same time that morning, probably around 11.00am we were from different areas some of us from Newport as three trains had pulled in at the same time. We met a large mob of Chelsea just over the bridge and definitely had the better of them. Was i proud at the time (I was 21) yes I was, did I enjoy being part of something tight knit and exciting yes I did. Meeting mates traveling up and down the country supporting the team I loved and still love and yes sometimes fighting in their name. Grown men fighting over football yes that's what we were. Do I regret it, no its done I am the person I am now despite of the things I did in my youth not because of them.
goats wrote:It was just fashion back then, different times with not much to do maybe, not half the bars and all night clubs of today, no Tv channels, internet etc....my old man was a teddy boy in the 50’s and he said they were always getting into scrapes, same with mods in the 60’s, skins and punks in the 70’s....look at the youth now all running around with blades, it’s getting really bad in Cardiff now with incidents every week, far far more sad that anything that happened back in the dark grim 80’s....
Whistler wrote:Whilst I agree it is part of social history, its something to acknowledge as an incident, its certainly not something to celebrate. I dont think its anything to be proud about as a City fan.
Forever Blue wrote:Ccfc-Shane wrote:Did Chelsea run Cardiff that day? As annis stated Chelsea brought around 3.000 hooligans and Cardiff’s gates wasn’t very high them days surly? Way before my time watching Cardiff (I wasn’t even in my old mans sack then) haha.
And how many times did Cardiff actually taken over at the Ninian? Surly it was a rare occasion? Heard a story of Pompey turning up in all wedding gear in limos and stuff (may be wrong)
Shane,
We were young most of us 16-23, I was 19, the main lot of Chelsea’s mob were 25-30 yrs old.
Chelsea were organised and had about 3,000 lads out. About 300 in our Grandstand , others scattered everywhere. With about 15mins to go and Chelsea losing 3-1 about 500 Chelsea left the away end and went right around to the Bob Bank entrance, I personally believe they would of run the Bob Bank as they were organised and had surprised Cardiff. One copper and his dog held the first few back, whilst a steward was able to lock the gate. There had been fighting in all
parts of home ends as Chelsea had gone in them. After the game Ninian Park road and Tudor road was just running battles and Cardiff held there own.
If both sets had fully met that day, Chelsea for me would of been to big for Cardiff , all though I have to say Cardiff had up to 1,500 lads all over the place as well.
Yes those days are gone and gone forever, but that was how it was in them days and it happened so those moaning and saying pathetic etc well that was how our generation grew up.
It is part of British history, like the mods, rockers, skinheads etc etc
Ps I think Chelsea getting back to 3-3 helped as hundreds of Chelsea went back in the ground to celebrate.
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Ccfc-Shane wrote:Did Chelsea run Cardiff that day? As annis stated Chelsea brought around 3.000 hooligans and Cardiff’s gates wasn’t very high them days surly? Way before my time watching Cardiff (I wasn’t even in my old mans sack then) haha.
And how many times did Cardiff actually taken over at the Ninian? Surly it was a rare occasion? Heard a story of Pompey turning up in all wedding gear in limos and stuff (may be wrong)
Shane,
We were young most of us 16-23, I was 19, the main lot of Chelsea’s mob were 25-30 yrs old.
Chelsea were organised and had about 3,000 lads out. About 300 in our Grandstand , others scattered everywhere. With about 15mins to go and Chelsea losing 3-1 about 500 Chelsea left the away end and went right around to the Bob Bank entrance, I personally believe they would of run the Bob Bank as they were organised and had surprised Cardiff. One copper and his dog held the first few back, whilst a steward was able to lock the gate. There had been fighting in all
parts of home ends as Chelsea had gone in them. After the game Ninian Park road and Tudor road was just running battles and Cardiff held there own.
If both sets had fully met that day, Chelsea for me would of been to big for Cardiff , all though I have to say Cardiff had up to 1,500 lads all over the place as well.
Yes those days are gone and gone forever, but that was how it was in them days and it happened so those moaning and saying pathetic etc well that was how our generation grew up.
It is part of British history, like the mods, rockers, skinheads etc etc
Ps I think Chelsea getting back to 3-3 helped as hundreds of Chelsea went back in the ground to celebrate.
The other 90% of supporters used to look on at these antics with a mixture of bewilderment and amusement. Those who participated in all that running around and shouting probably though those looking on were in some way impressed. Most of us thought "what a bunch of silly tw*ts'..
Bluearmy54 wrote:I was there that day hell of a day we was run outside the ground. They didn't take the bob bank and it was never a pen for Chelsea in the last few mins
keanoswinklepickers wrote:Violence was worst when Chelsea relegated from Division 1 about 79/80. Before this we had home Internationals Wales v England at Ninian Park. Big Chelsea flag put up on the Bob Bank terrace stantions near the Canton Stand. Went and had a chat and were told Chelsea would run us ragged next season! They got a good kicking before Canton Stand gate let them in. Next season first Chelsea special train arrived at Ninian Park Halt and attacked Jimmy’s cafe. Fences went in the park across from NP after the game with running battles and reported stabbings in South Wales Echo and fighting in St David’s hospital between fans.
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