MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Matt Hancock is quoted as suggesting that 'the vast majority of people diagnosed with the Indian mutation in hotspots such as Bolton and Blackburn haven't had the vaccine despite being eligible'. This includes people now being hospitalised.
If this is correct, then I feel that our progress out of this never-ending lockdown restrictions is being hampered by a combination of some poor decisions by the government, with the latest being the delay in closing the borders to flights from India; along with those people who continue to refuse the vaccine. (obviously not including those with medical issues prevention them from having the jab)
pembroke allan wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Matt Hancock is quoted as suggesting that 'the vast majority of people diagnosed with the Indian mutation in hotspots such as Bolton and Blackburn haven't had the vaccine despite being eligible'. This includes people now being hospitalised.
If this is correct, then I feel that our progress out of this never-ending lockdown restrictions is being hampered by a combination of some poor decisions by the government, with the latest being the delay in closing the borders to flights from India; along with those people who continue to refuse the vaccine. (obviously not including those with medical issues prevention them from having the jab)
Strict lockdown the areas like bolton they did it in Australia and it works... that should tax the minds of those selfish idiots who refuse to have vaccination .... the longer we put off doing this the more likely it will spread and cause further national lockdowns
Big Hill Blue wrote:I see cases of the Indian variant increase around Bolton
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19 ... s-concern/
TheHangedMan wrote:Big Hill Blue wrote:I see cases of the Indian variant increase around Bolton
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19 ... s-concern/
I see cases of hysteria increase around Cardiff!
TheHangedMan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Matt Hancock is quoted as suggesting that 'the vast majority of people diagnosed with the Indian mutation in hotspots such as Bolton and Blackburn haven't had the vaccine despite being eligible'. This includes people now being hospitalised.
If this is correct, then I feel that our progress out of this never-ending lockdown restrictions is being hampered by a combination of some poor decisions by the government, with the latest being the delay in closing the borders to flights from India; along with those people who continue to refuse the vaccine. (obviously not including those with medical issues prevention them from having the jab)
Strict lockdown the areas like bolton they did it in Australia and it works... that should tax the minds of those selfish idiots who refuse to have vaccination .... the longer we put off doing this the more likely it will spread and cause further national lockdowns
Allan, can you not see the dichotomy of what you are saying? You cannot have it both ways.
Either you believe that the vaccine works, and thus by default, if you take it up you are safe and have nothing to fear from those who "choose" with their own "freewill" not to take your route.
Alternatively, if you are not convinced that the vaccine works, why would you try and force it on others!
For some strange reason, and I must admit it baffles me, there has never been a serious MSM debate (to my knowledge) on this very question. Why?
Bluebina wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Matt Hancock is quoted as suggesting that 'the vast majority of people diagnosed with the Indian mutation in hotspots such as Bolton and Blackburn haven't had the vaccine despite being eligible'. This includes people now being hospitalised.
If this is correct, then I feel that our progress out of this never-ending lockdown restrictions is being hampered by a combination of some poor decisions by the government, with the latest being the delay in closing the borders to flights from India; along with those people who continue to refuse the vaccine. (obviously not including those with medical issues prevention them from having the jab)
Strict lockdown the areas like bolton they did it in Australia and it works... that should tax the minds of those selfish idiots who refuse to have vaccination .... the longer we put off doing this the more likely it will spread and cause further national lockdowns
Allan, can you not see the dichotomy of what you are saying? You cannot have it both ways.
Either you believe that the vaccine works, and thus by default, if you take it up you are safe and have nothing to fear from those who "choose" with their own "freewill" not to take your route.
Alternatively, if you are not convinced that the vaccine works, why would you try and force it on others!
For some strange reason, and I must admit it baffles me, there has never been a serious MSM debate (to my knowledge) on this very question. Why?
It's never been 100% safe, so for heard/community immunity we need a high uptake in the vaccine to reduce the chances of it spreading, if everyone does their bit we could beat the virus quicker
Bolton shows what happens when lots of people chose not to be vaccinated, it spreads at a much faster rate.
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Too many unvaccinated people do concern me as they could be the reason for the further delay ending the restrictions.
TheHangedMan wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Too many unvaccinated people do concern me as they could be the reason for the further delay ending the restrictions.
I understand your concerns, but in fairness they will not be the "reason" for any delays in restrictions. The only reason for delay is our Government.
I grant you that that Government may use this as a convienent excuse......but ultimately it is their decision. If you still believe them I am happy for you, ignorance is bliss.
TheHangedMan wrote:Bluebina wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Matt Hancock is quoted as suggesting that 'the vast majority of people diagnosed with the Indian mutation in hotspots such as Bolton and Blackburn haven't had the vaccine despite being eligible'. This includes people now being hospitalised.
If this is correct, then I feel that our progress out of this never-ending lockdown restrictions is being hampered by a combination of some poor decisions by the government, with the latest being the delay in closing the borders to flights from India; along with those people who continue to refuse the vaccine. (obviously not including those with medical issues prevention them from having the jab)
Strict lockdown the areas like bolton they did it in Australia and it works... that should tax the minds of those selfish idiots who refuse to have vaccination .... the longer we put off doing this the more likely it will spread and cause further national lockdowns
Allan, can you not see the dichotomy of what you are saying? You cannot have it both ways.
Either you believe that the vaccine works, and thus by default, if you take it up you are safe and have nothing to fear from those who "choose" with their own "freewill" not to take your route.
Alternatively, if you are not convinced that the vaccine works, why would you try and force it on others!
For some strange reason, and I must admit it baffles me, there has never been a serious MSM debate (to my knowledge) on this very question. Why?
It's never been 100% safe, so for heard/community immunity we need a high uptake in the vaccine to reduce the chances of it spreading, if everyone does their bit we could beat the virus quicker
Bolton shows what happens when lots of people chose not to be vaccinated, it spreads at a much faster rate.
I hear you......but you haven't addressed the question that perplexes me!
If you are vaccinated, and many others decide to take the same route, why worry about the unvaccinated? They are not your problem as obviously you are safe.
I'm not talking in riddles, but no one seems to be able to answer this very straight forward, simple question.
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