worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
Igovernor wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
There are many black footballers who diasagree with taking the knee, and are refusing to do so, but can you see a white footballer refusing to take the knee unleess the whole team refused! Take the knee or you are a racist
skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
I imagine for some footballers you could replace the pressure and backlash to not kneeling with not wearing a poppy. Plenty of countries who aren't exactly on good terms with British armed forces in recent years.
Nuclearblue wrote:Ned where did your reply go saying the fist pump is Black power ? But you are a 100% correct it is
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
I imagine for some footballers you could replace the pressure and backlash to not kneeling with not wearing a poppy. Plenty of countries who aren't exactly on good terms with British armed forces in recent years.
rumpo kid wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
I imagine for some footballers you could replace the pressure and backlash to not kneeling with not wearing a poppy. Plenty of countries who aren't exactly on good terms with British armed forces in recent years.
If such, then they should ply their trade elsewhere.. stay true to their convictions.
biglad6 wrote:I don't post here often but Annie your 100% right. I'm looking forward to booing it when we get the chance. Imagine if we had a campaign that white lives matter !! Or walked up at Mary street with a white lives matter t shirt, your be arrested! All lives matter it's as simple as that. Also the bloke that flew a light aircraft around turf moor with a banner saying all lives matter was criticised, banned et c all wrong. You wait though when normal people are allowed back in and the booing starts it 'll get dropped straight away. Although remember at the end they were going to ban people for booing. In a free country!!
WestCoastBlue wrote:rumpo kid wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
I imagine for some footballers you could replace the pressure and backlash to not kneeling with not wearing a poppy. Plenty of countries who aren't exactly on good terms with British armed forces in recent years.
If such, then they should ply their trade elsewhere.. stay true to their convictions.
Seems a bit extreme don’t you think? If you don’t want to wear a poppy you should probably move to a different country
I’m sure there’s plenty of Irish people like McClean who love living all across the UK and all the things that come with living here, but would have reservations about wearing the Poppy due to the troubles. Likewise people from ex Yugoslavian nations, like Nemanja Matic, who doesn’t wear it due to NATO forces bombing his home town in the Bosnian War.
WestCoastBlue wrote:rumpo kid wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Well done to those individuals who are sticking to their beliefs by continuing doing it, and equally those who are sticking to their beliefs by not doing it.
Those who want to carry on doing it next season should continue to do so, and vice versa for those who don't want to.
If people want football to be entirely politics-free (players and management have repeatedly said this is not for political reasons) then they have to accept there would also have to be no minutes silence for royal family members or public figures, no minutes silence to honour war soldiers and no more poppies on shirts - these are all also classed as political gestures, if taking the knee is.
your seriously comparing BLM to honouring boys that gave their lives .....
as for those who want to.... really ? some of these young men/ boys feel under pressure to do so....its not difficult to imagine being in that spot... infact you do not have to imagine as there have been meltdowns when some teams havent done it...its a no brainer..kneel or be accused of being racist...
I imagine for some footballers you could replace the pressure and backlash to not kneeling with not wearing a poppy. Plenty of countries who aren't exactly on good terms with British armed forces in recent years.
If such, then they should ply their trade elsewhere.. stay true to their convictions.
Seems a bit extreme don’t you think? If you don’t want to wear a poppy you should probably move to a different country
I’m sure there’s plenty of Irish people like McClean who love living all across the UK and all the things that come with living here, but would have reservations about wearing the Poppy due to the troubles. Likewise people from ex Yugoslavian nations, like Nemanja Matic, who doesn’t wear it due to NATO forces bombing his home town in the Bosnian War.
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