Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:33 am
TheHangedMan wrote:That is the most awkward statement I have seen from Sir Boris, to compound the unease we had inputs from Sir Twitty and God of all Humans.......Mr Valance.
It's not always about what they say, a better teller of truth is how they act. Right from the kick off (don't take my word for it, replay your own clips)....all eyes were pointing south. If you have a conversation with anyone, a sure tell that they are withholding something, or worse, actually lying, their eyes will drop to the floor.
They will not look you in the eye, and suddenly the carpet becomes the most interesting thing in the room.
As the Skidmeister said, I'll believe it when I see it.
In the meantime a quick prediction........we may have a new variant, on the last variant, which surpasses the other variant, which killed off the really bad variant in Kent......and we're back to square one. You heard it here 1st.
Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:34 am
Bluebina wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:That is the most awkward statement I have seen from Sir Boris, to compound the unease we had inputs from Sir Twitty and God of all Humans.......Mr Valance.
It's not always about what they say, a better teller of truth is how they act. Right from the kick off (don't take my word for it, replay your own clips)....all eyes were pointing south. If you have a conversation with anyone, a sure tell that they are withholding something, or worse, actually lying, their eyes will drop to the floor.
They will not look you in the eye, and suddenly the carpet becomes the most interesting thing in the room.
As the Skidmeister said, I'll believe it when I see it.
In the meantime a quick prediction........we may have a new variant, on the last variant, which surpasses the other variant, which killed off the really bad variant in Kent......and we're back to square one. You heard it here 1st.
I think he will do it, I know what you mean he did look sheepish though, could he just be concerned from the reaction when the numbers go up? The other two weren't that happy you could see that, they are not sure and will always err on the side of caution if they could?
We have to do it we can't go on like this forever
Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:41 pm
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Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:19 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:Covid in Wales: Face masks to stay but no decision on shops -
Face masks will continue to be required by law in some places in Wales as long as Covid remained a threat, the Welsh government has said.
It said if Wales moved from alert level one to zero, coverings would still be mandatory on public transport and in health and social care settings.
It added a decision was yet to be made on mandating face masks in shops.
In England, wearing a mask will no longer be legally required in most places from 19 July.
Covid: Call for Wales to follow England's quarantine travel rules -
Travel agents and tour operators in Wales want the Welsh government to follow England and adopt the same rules affecting international travellers.
UK residents who have had both doses of the Covid vaccine returning from amber list destinations will no longer have to isolate in England from 19 July.
But Health Minister Eluned Morgan said she was concerned new Covid variants could come into the UK from abroad.
Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:23 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:46 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Will WG take any notice of experts?
Wales should now lift all Covid restrictions, a leading expert on infectious diseases has said.
Latest data from Public Health Wales show Covid case rates in Wales are at 127 cases per 100,000 people below other UK nations and most English regions. Also The number of people admitted to hospital with Covid also remained close to record low levels, with the number of those in critical care also very low.
Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:06 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:15 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Will WG take any notice of experts?
Wales should now lift all Covid restrictions, a leading expert on infectious diseases has said.
Latest data from Public Health Wales show Covid case rates in Wales are at 127 cases per 100,000 people below other UK nations and most English regions. Also The number of people admitted to hospital with Covid also remained close to record low levels, with the number of those in critical care also very low.
there are a group of people who are quite enjoying an extended 15 minutes of fame.... and another group who have picked up some pretty good jobs in the last year or so.... so the answer is not until every number reads zero .... even the suspected covids { notice how this has crept in } are zero...
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:49 pm
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Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:11 pm
pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:13 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:28 am
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:10 am
Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Yrs, but the reality is that those double vaccinated are less likely to contract or transmit to the same levels as those who are not double vaccinated
Notwithstanding some people are simply unable to receive tgeir jabs for medical reasons, those who choose not to have them are at best unhelpful to the situation and maybe potentially culpable for keeping the serious cases unnecessarily high
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:46 am
Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Yrs, but the reality is that those double vaccinated are less likely to contract or transmit to the same levels as those who are not double vaccinated
Notwithstanding some people are simply unable to receive tgeir jabs for medical reasons, those who choose not to have them are at best unhelpful to the situation and maybe potentially culpable for keeping the serious cases unnecessarily high
Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:56 pm
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:30 pm
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Just accept it fellas. Vaccine passports were always likely to be on the long term agenda whether we like it or not.
It appears sporting crowds of 20,000 plus may soon need the passport.
I'm sure Mr Drakeford will be naming a figure much lower than 20,000 as the positive cases increase effecting both Cardiff and Swansea.
If you haven't had your double jab, it could be a long and boring time ahead!
Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:22 am
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Yrs, but the reality is that those double vaccinated are less likely to contract or transmit to the same levels as those who are not double vaccinated
Notwithstanding some people are simply unable to receive tgeir jabs for medical reasons, those who choose not to have them are at best unhelpful to the situation and maybe potentially culpable for keeping the serious cases unnecessarily high
where does this potentially culpable start and end .... ? its take your pick to suit your views.....how about going through airports and jumping on cramped planes all while wearing a joking mask not fit for purpose that has more to do with fashion than effectiveness...? as for figures they change constantly ... more double jabbed in hospital than un jabbed.... cases amongst the jabbed up 40% in a week and likely to overtake the unjabbed { down 22% } in the next few days.... and what ever happened to these vaccines being the magic bullet...
Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:23 am
Igovernor wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Yrs, but the reality is that those double vaccinated are less likely to contract or transmit to the same levels as those who are not double vaccinated
Notwithstanding some people are simply unable to receive tgeir jabs for medical reasons, those who choose not to have them are at best unhelpful to the situation and maybe potentially culpable for keeping the serious cases unnecessarily high
where does this potentially culpable start and end .... ? its take your pick to suit your views.....how about going through airports and jumping on cramped planes all while wearing a joking mask not fit for purpose that has more to do with fashion than effectiveness...? as for figures they change constantly ... more double jabbed in hospital than un jabbed.... cases amongst the jabbed up 40% in a week and likely to overtake the unjabbed { down 22% } in the next few days.... and what ever happened to these vaccines being the magic bullet...
Big mistake here.
Over half of people in the UK being admitted to hospital with the coronavirus are unvaccinated, Sir Patrick Vallance (pictured) has clarified. He originally said 60 per cent of hospital admissions were people who received both jabs, when speaking at a No10 press conference last night. But he later tweeted to say the statistic was false, with the number actually applying to unvaccinated people
https://twitter.com/uksciencechief/stat ... gr%5Etweet
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sions.html
Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:41 am
TheHangedMan wrote:Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:I know it's not easy for boris to get things right with covid but lately hes making a balls up of things? Firstly should never have removed mandatory face masks simply because young people who have not be vaccinated wont have jab why should they when everything is open? Now he's saying no double vaccination no entry into night clubs from sept? Ffs suppose to have experts helping him to get it right but it was blatantly obvious what would happen..
thin end of the wedge..
Maybe but a bit of common sense would tell him if people dont need to be vaccinated they wont be.... cannot have potentially millions of unvaccinated people running around potentially giving covid without realizing it especially as was avoidable ...but live and learn
trouble is double vaccinated people can run around giving covid without realising it too.....
Yrs, but the reality is that those double vaccinated are less likely to contract or transmit to the same levels as those who are not double vaccinated
Notwithstanding some people are simply unable to receive tgeir jabs for medical reasons, those who choose not to have them are at best unhelpful to the situation and maybe potentially culpable for keeping the serious cases unnecessarily high
"Potentially culpable"....interesting use of words there Chris......I can't remember you stating that to people who chose not to have the influenza jab when offered, even though influenza is a killer, and not just to the old and vulnerable but to all ages. It's funny how the goalposts keep moving.