Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:40 pm
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:55 pm
Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:57 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:M4 Exile wrote:It’s 100% happening barring a major last minute cockup.
Says who?
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:06 pm
M4 Exile wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:M4 Exile wrote:It’s 100% happening barring a major last minute cockup.
Says who?
I’ll reveal who once it’s done and I know no one gets in trouble
it will be after another potential signing too or when he goes elsewhere
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:07 pm
wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:07 pm
wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:10 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:M4 Exile wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:M4 Exile wrote:It’s 100% happening barring a major last minute cockup.
Says who?
I’ll reveal who once it’s done and I know no one gets in trouble
it will be after another potential signing too or when he goes elsewhere
What does it depend on mate? (If anything)
Also, any idea of when announcement(s) will happen?
Cheers in advance
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:12 pm
OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:15 pm
M4 Exile wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:M4 Exile wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:M4 Exile wrote:It’s 100% happening barring a major last minute cockup.
Says who?
I’ll reveal who once it’s done and I know no one gets in trouble
it will be after another potential signing too or when he goes elsewhere
What does it depend on mate? (If anything)
Also, any idea of when announcement(s) will happen?
Cheers in advance
No idea on what could mess it up, again can’t state enough it would genuinely have to be a major disagreement between bale + board (and this is coming from a Tan defender )
Don’t know when it’s announced but Bale’s intentions are 100% to sign for Cardiff and I highly doubt what he’s asking for will be too unreasonable
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:29 pm
Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:39 pm
M4 Exile wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:M4 Exile wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:M4 Exile wrote:It’s 100% happening barring a major last minute cockup.
Says who?
I’ll reveal who once it’s done and I know no one gets in trouble
it will be after another potential signing too or when he goes elsewhere
What does it depend on mate? (If anything)
Also, any idea of when announcement(s) will happen?
Cheers in advance
No idea on what could mess it up, again can’t state enough it would genuinely have to be a major disagreement between bale + board (and this is coming from a Tan defender )
Don’t know when it’s announced but Bale’s intentions are 100% to sign for Cardiff and I highly doubt what he’s asking for will be too unreasonable
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:19 pm
Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:36 pm
Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:41 pm
Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:47 pm
Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:53 pm
Barclay1 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
But he doesnt want to go elsewhere does he as you well know. So others who have alluded the same on page one of this thread? Didnt care to answers their similar points then?
Its absolute folly on your part to suggest Bale will want such money, or even make such demands on game time.
If he wants more than the average footballer, it would be ludicrous ( or typical) of our board ur board not to give the guy his demands. The benefits would far far far outweigh his requests, which, if what we read it to be believed, are not likely to be preposterous in the slightest.
The nonsense here is your defence of a board that in your eyes can do no wrong.
Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:15 pm
Abergavenny wrote:If it is about money and playing at as high a level possible then we will not be in with chance However if it’s not about money but being close to family and being home within 15 mins from training ground and have more time with his family then we are in prime position.
The reasons he will go for us will mostly be for non football related issues and no other club can offer those as well as we can
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:52 am
Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:14 am
piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:17 am
piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:18 am
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:34 am
piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:43 am
Igovernor wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Sponsership helps, Rooney was sponsered by a betting company, and that was ok, the points deduction was because Derby did not do their accounts correctly, had to redo them and they were still not correct, and thought it was ok to "sell" their ground for £80m when it was only worth around the £30m/£40m mark.
Perhaps the malaysia goverment, or even VT will sponser GB. We will never know the exact deal that's being thrashed out, but it will be done with the FFP rules in mind
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:05 am
piledriver64 wrote:Igovernor wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Sponsership helps, Rooney was sponsered by a betting company, and that was ok, the points deduction was because Derby did not do their accounts correctly, had to redo them and they were still not correct, and thought it was ok to "sell" their ground for £80m when it was only worth around the £30m/£40m mark.
Perhaps the malaysia goverment, or even VT will sponser GB. We will never know the exact deal that's being thrashed out, but it will be done with the FFP rules in mind
Yep, I'm sure it will but people need to recognise that it will be a factor in the deal that is being/has been struck.
As you say, the Derby ground example is one that demonstrates that just because you take an action doesn't mean to say that it complies with FFP.
My guess is that we're at the point now where all of these issues have already been resolved and it's down to Bale to make/announce a decision. I first heard about this prospective "deal" back in April, as Forever Blue could confirm, so it's not as if they're scrambling around in the last couple of weeks to see if it can be done.
They know the parameters, Bale just needs to decide if it's right for him and then both sides agree the best time to make the announcement, either way.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Igovernor wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Sponsership helps, Rooney was sponsered by a betting company, and that was ok, the points deduction was because Derby did not do their accounts correctly, had to redo them and they were still not correct, and thought it was ok to "sell" their ground for £80m when it was only worth around the £30m/£40m mark.
Perhaps the malaysia goverment, or even VT will sponser GB. We will never know the exact deal that's being thrashed out, but it will be done with the FFP rules in mind
Yep, I'm sure it will but people need to recognise that it will be a factor in the deal that is being/has been struck.
As you say, the Derby ground example is one that demonstrates that just because you take an action doesn't mean to say that it complies with FFP.
My guess is that we're at the point now where all of these issues have already been resolved and it's down to Bale to make/announce a decision. I first heard about this prospective "deal" back in April, as Forever Blue could confirm, so it's not as if they're scrambling around in the last couple of weeks to see if it can be done.
They know the parameters, Bale just needs to decide if it's right for him and then both sides agree the best time to make the announcement, either way.
Yes but don’t forget if Bale decides it’s not for him - whatever his reason then it’s all those horrible people on the boards fault.
If he does sign then it’s nothing to do with the board it’s all Bale!
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:34 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Barclay1 wrote:OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:As much as I will applaud the board for bringing Bale onboard, It will be completely their own fault if Bale doesnt sign.
Bale wants to come, clearly. The only way he wont is if Dalman et al dont give Bale what he is looking for.
With the board being such a jealous self centred self important bunch it wouldnt surprise me if Bale was to walk away and the board will be forever remembered as the ones who turned down a top world footballer for nothing.
Yes, the board ARE accountable. I urge them to conclude this deal for the good of the club, the fans and the City as a whole. And good for them if they do.
I'd go as far as to say our immediate future relies on this deal.
What a load of nonsense, so if Bale says I want 100k a week and only wants to play home games, and cardiff say no its the boards fault ffs ,if it falls through it will probably be coz bale wants to go somewhere else .
We know he’s not going to ask for that so that’s an irrelevant point. It’s looking like the only way he will go somewhere else is if we f**k it up on our side of things so it seems.
Over to you Wez!
Wez is right.
We have no idea what any deal includes, but there may be certain contract criteria that would scupper the deal and not be the clubs fault.
It feels like those already blaming the board want it both ways. You want the glory of signing Bale but will be just as happy to yet again stick the knife into the board.
It's all hypothetical but what if Bale does want to pick and choose his game time and the manager thinks that will unsettle the team dynamics, what if he does want a weekly salary that goes against the clubs finances (and yes I know he will bring in PR, tickets sales and merchandise sales). There may be a limit as to weekly wages and percentages of merchandise sales we can afford.
We know how Madrid were annoyed by that flag, well we are already being told (if true) that this is all about Wales and the World Cup. As much as we want him playing for Wales, the club do have priorities of their own.
All that said, I do doubt that Bales requests will be exorbitant but let's keep judgement until we know the facts.
Anyway, he is signing so let's not argue about it.
Spot on.
Just one additional point. I have seen very little mention of FFP throughout this process but it is a real consideration for the club.
I’m not an expert but salary and benefits to a player do count towards expenditure as far as I know. Therefore, if those benefits such as image rights, shirt sales, etc., are part of any deal that has to be carefully calculated. The last thing we need is to fall foul of FFP and have to work within transfer embargoes, etc.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m guessing that after this summer’s cull of big earners we probably do have plenty of wriggle room for this not to be anything more than a consideration.
I raise this just to demonstrate that the club has to ensure that any deal doesn’t jeopardise the hard work that has been done on the finances.
You can bet your bottom dollar that there will be plenty of jealous clubs watching our finances very closely so we’ll have to be squeaky clean on this deal, even more so if the Ramsey deal is a goer.
I firmly believe that this deal is more likely to happen than not, but it’s not as simple as just signing on the dotted line.
Two great posts and proves again how naive Barclay is when it comes to football.
No one is bigger than the club not even Bale.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:52 am
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:18 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:Just peddling your masters agenda.