Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:20 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:39 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Financial.
Let me break it down:
We borrowed £27m at 9% from Dalman.
We borrowed £17m at 9% from another company.
H R Owen (London) owned by Tan but managed by Ken Choo is losing £3.6m per month.
3 facts along that is creating a low morale at the club that I believe is affecting our football. If I was playing for Cardiff I would question if I would be here next season and if I'm one of the lucky ones what type of standard I would be playing with.
Tan's concentration is on his other businesses and not us so don't expect much investment next season.
Tans Belgium club is in big trouble on and off the pitch.
Lets all say a prayer for Tan
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:44 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:53 pm
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Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:10 pm
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Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:12 pm
Underhill1927 wrote:He’s too stubborn to sell at anything apart from ridiculous money. The Tan era will end with us relegated or in administration
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:17 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:30 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:33 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:35 pm
Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:39 pm
kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:51 pm
Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:54 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:54 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:59 pm
kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:59 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:02 pm
Barclay1 wrote:People have stumped up the cash...with, I have no doubt, further sweetners to allow him to recoup more of his money, if we get back to the promised land.
Tan is neither interested in the club, or apparently any offers of any sort...
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:07 pm
wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:16 pm
kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:22 pm
wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
You would soon be moaning if we had an embargo and points deduction for as you put it a way around ffp , the days of getting around ffp have gone personally I think ffp sucks and stop any ambition in clubs
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:28 pm
kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
You would soon be moaning if we had an embargo and points deduction for as you put it a way around ffp , the days of getting around ffp have gone personally I think ffp sucks and stop any ambition in clubs
you cant get into trouble by making money from sponsors ? every club makes money this way but tan uses visit Malaysia and earns nothing from it, and we all know why he does this to keep people back home happy so he keeps getting his own way
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:45 pm
wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
You would soon be moaning if we had an embargo and points deduction for as you put it a way around ffp , the days of getting around ffp have gone personally I think ffp sucks and stop any ambition in clubs
you cant get into trouble by making money from sponsors ? every club makes money this way but tan uses visit Malaysia and earns nothing from it, and we all know why he does this to keep people back home happy so he keeps getting his own way
We do get money from it tho ? What you can get trouble for is over valuing it , tan just can't puts his company on our shirt for say 100m it just won't wash with the efl
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:45 pm
wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
You would soon be moaning if we had an embargo and points deduction for as you put it a way around ffp , the days of getting around ffp have gone personally I think ffp sucks and stop any ambition in clubs
you cant get into trouble by making money from sponsors ? every club makes money this way but tan uses visit Malaysia and earns nothing from it, and we all know why he does this to keep people back home happy so he keeps getting his own way
We do get money from it tho ? What you can get trouble for is over valuing it , tan just can't puts his company on our shirt for say 100m it just won't wash with the efl
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:47 pm
wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:kyle08 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
wez, do you want him out ? do you feel we are going anywhere with this board as is ?
i for one am sick of all of this we need a new direction and ambition i will continue to support our beautiful club but its so hard when we constantly dont know future plans and sack managers left right and centre
I've always said that he should sell if he's not investing but he has invested tbf 11 million a season minimum in fact , the problem is whoever comes in can't just splash the cash those days under ffp have gone .also we are no different in terms of changing managers to any other team most championship managers get 12 to 18 months these days then there gone, bulut has been a big let down personally he started well but let's be honest since November the football is defensive and dire .we roll over too easy .he's definitely not getting the best out of this squad .
there is ways around ffp though, shirt sponsors, selling naming rights to stadium etc etc im not doubting hes spending cash but not in a good way getting our club to the prem to stay there
You would soon be moaning if we had an embargo and points deduction for as you put it a way around ffp , the days of getting around ffp have gone personally I think ffp sucks and stop any ambition in clubs
you cant get into trouble by making money from sponsors ? every club makes money this way but tan uses visit Malaysia and earns nothing from it, and we all know why he does this to keep people back home happy so he keeps getting his own way
We do get money from it tho ? What you can get trouble for is over valuing it , tan just can't puts his company on our shirt for say 100m it just won't wash with the efl
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:50 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:kyle08 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Yes, I've been on Tans back from the moment, he couldn't, or more precisely wouldnt show any ambition to get us back to the Premier League.
Many have called for him to go, and the calls get louder. If it is true that he is now in financial decline, as I believe is being intimated here, then these calls should really be reaching a crescendo.
Let's be honest, us fans have put up with mediocrity at best for the last 5+ years, to the point of accepting it. We can no longer make it this easy for Tan and the regime to leave us rudderless.
What can we do? I don't have any real answer, BUT, even though Tan/Nash and his cronies have tried to kick the passion out of our supporters, we need to get this back and fight like Cardiff City supporters did in the 80's and 90's and use fan power to remove him.
with you all the way on this, a united fan base is key in trying to push to get the best for our club.
we need to make him sell up we dont want to be on his ride while he looses money and drowns our club with it, tan its time to go we dont want you here
With you both in this , Our Fans for the sake of our club should unite and drive this Regime out once and for all.
You've been trying that for 10 years , unless you get someone to stump up the cash to buy him out then he's going no where .
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:51 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:55 pm
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:57 pm